000 FXUS63 KIWX 081850 AFDIWX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA 150 PM EST SUN NOV 8 2009 .AVIATION... LITTLE CONCERN THROUGH THE TAF PD WITH EXCEPTION OF POSSIBLE FOG DEVELOPMENT AGAIN THIS MORNING AS DEWPOINTS THIS AFTERNOON ARE ABOVE YESTERDAYS LEVELS AND WITH CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED TONIGHT PER MODEL 850-500MB RH FIELDS...A PERIOD OF MVFR BR AGAIN LOOKS POSSIBLE. OTHERWISE...HIGH CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON GIVE WAY TO SKC OVERNIGHT WITH LIGHT SOUTH WINDS AROUND 5KTS TONIGHT. CLOUDS INCREASE ON MONDAY IN ADVANCE OF FRONTAL BOUNDARY POISED TO IMPACT THE AREA BEYOND THE END OF THE TAF PD. .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1045 AM EST SUN NOV 8 2009/ UPDATE... QUICK UPDATE TO REMOVE MORNING WORDING AS FOG HAS ESSENTIALLY CLEARED THE AREA. CLEARED SKY GRIDS TO ZERO THROUGH MIDDAY AGAIN PER SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS. AC DECK OVER ILLINOIS WILL BRING SOME OPAQUE CLOUDINESS TO THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON BUT PERCENTAGE OF OPAQUE SKY COVER WILL REMAIN LIMITED AND LIKELY OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE TO TEMPERATURES. SPEAKING OF...BUMPED TEMPS UP GENERALLY 3 DEGREES ACROSS THE BOARD AS MIX DOWN TECHNIQUES FROM H92 REVEAL TEMPS A LITTLE WARMER THAN 70 OVER MOST AREAS TODAY. UPDATED GRIDS/ZONES ARE OUT. PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 450 AM EST SUN NOV 8 2009/ SHORT TERM... ERLY AM WORDING FOR PTCHY GROUND FOG. VSBYS SHOULD REMAIN QUITE VARIABLE OWING TO LACK OF FOG DEPTH. GRDL INCRS IN MIXING DEPTH TWRD DAYBREAK IS ALSO PSBL AS PRES GRD ICRS. CONTD UPWARD TREND ON TEMPS SPCLY DY1 WITH RELATIVELY WARM START AND 1000-850 THERMAL AXIS TO SET UP FM CNTL MO TO NWRN PART OF CWA BY THIS EVENING WITH PROJECTED MAX TEMPS HOLDING JUST BLO NOV 8 RECORDS. FAVOR A SIMILAR DIURNAL TREND AS YDAY WITH STRONG INSOLATION/WAA PATTERN. STRONGER SRLY BACKGROUND FLOW SHOULD PRECLUDE KBEH FM STRONG COLD AIR DRAINAGE AS SEEN THIS AM WITH TEMPS INTO UPR 30S BY 07 UTC THIS AM...WILL HOWEVER FAVOR A BIT COOLER THAN MOS TONIGHT. NRN STREAM WAVE ACRS NRN ROCKIES COMBINE WITH CHIHUAHUAN DESERT/ EDWARDS PLATEAU DISTURBANCE TO AFFORD PROLONGED 7-5H HEIGHT FALL AXIS AHEAD OF FNTL S FOR GENERAL ASCENT...DESPITE LLJ AXIS AND SFC LOW PUSHING WELL N/NE OF CWA. FOCUS OF WX IN MONDAY NIGHT PERIOD WITH LITTLE TIMING DIFF SEEN IN SREF/GFS/NAM. BY F42 I295 UPGLIDE WITH AID OF 8-9 G/KG MSTR TAP SHOULD FINALLY BEGIN TO SEE SHRA OVERCOME INITIALLY HI CPDS GIVEN H8-H5 DRY LYR FM NW TO SE ACRS CWA THRU MON NIGHT AND HAVE AFFORDED SOME TEMPORAL/SPATIAL RESOLUTION TO CHC POPS. RELUCTANT AT THIS TIME TO TREND HIR THAN 50 POP NRN CWA GIVEN LACK OF STRONG FORCED ASCENT AND SLIGHT DOWNWARD MODIFICATION OF HPC PRECIP AMNTS. LONG TERM... CDFNT WILL HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE AREA BY THE START OF THE LONG TERM PD TUE MORNING. MODELS HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT SUGGESTING A BAND OF POST FRONTAL SHOWERS WILL AFFECT THE AREA EARLY TUE IN RESPONSE TO AN AMPLIFYING SHRTWV AND ACCOMPANYING MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS MOVG INTO THE GRTLKS. RUN-RUN CONTINUITY WRT LOCATION OF THIS BAND HAS NOT BEEN VERY GOOD, BUT 00Z MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH .1-.25" QPF OVER MUCH OF THE CWA WITH HIGH CHC TO LOW LIKELY MOS POPS... SO TRENDED OUR POPS UP FOR TUE. NAM/GFS BUFR SOUNDINGS SUGGESTS MOS TEMPS ARE TOO WARM TUE...STAYED CLOSE TO GOING FCST HIGHS IN THE L-M50S. RIDGING SFC AND ALOFT WILL BUILD INTO THE AREA TUE NGT IN THE WAKE TUE'S SHRTWV, PROVIDING CLEARING SKIES AND DIMINISHING WINDS CAUSING DECENT RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS TO DVLP OVERNIGHT. LITTLE CHANGE MADE TO GOING MINS IN L-M30S WHICH ARE A BIT BLO LATEST MEX FCSTS. 00Z MODELS IN FAIR AGREEMENT THAT DIGGING SHRTWV WHICH MOVES THROUGH THE GRTLKS TUE WILL CLOSE OFF NR THE MID ATLANTIC COAST AS IT PSBLY MERGES WITH REMNANTS OF HURRICANE IDA BY THU MORNING. THIS WILL RESULT IN SLOW EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF RIDGE FROM THE GRTLKS THROUGH THE ERN U.S. LATE IN THE WEEK AND LIKELY CAUSE WKNG/DEFLECTION NEWD OF NEXT SGFNT SHRTWV TO MOVE FM THE ERN PACIFIC ACROSS THE ROCKIES/PLAINS AND TO THE UPR GRTLKS DURING THIS PERIOD. GFS APPEARS TO BE AN OUTLIER MAINTAINING STRENGTH OF THIS SHRTWV AND BREAKING DOWN ERN RIDGE FASTER THAN ECMWF/GLOBAL GEM AND GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN. ECMWF SUGGESTS IF ANY PRECIP OCCURS WITH THIS SYSTEM IN OUR AREA LATE IN THE PD, IT WILL BE VERY LIGHT, SO FOR NOW CONTD WITH A DRY WX FOR SATURDAY. IN THE MEANTIME RIDGE SHOULD PROVIDE FAIR WX WITH LIGHT WINDS WED, AND GRADUAL WARMUP THU-FRI AS RETURN FLOW ON BACKSIDE OF HIGH DVLPS OVER THE REGION. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...MURPHY LONG TERM...JT AVIATION...LUD