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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND
930 PM CST MON NOV 23 2009

.UPDATE...
SFC LOW AT 03Z NEAR KTVF. AREA OF RAIN ON NORTSIDE OF 500 MB UPPER
LOW WHICH IS NEAR GRAND FORKS MOVING NORTHWARD INTO SOUTHEAST
MANITOBA WITH THE LINGERNIG RAIN OVER FAR NE ND/NW MN EXITING THE
AREA BY 06Z WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAKE OF THE WOODS REGION
WHICH WILL STAY CLOSER TO THE RAIN AREA THROUGH 09Z. THAT LEAVES
MOST OF THE FCST AREA SEEING NOT TOO MUCH THE REST OF THE NIGHT
BUT WILL MAINTAIN CHC POPS OVER MINNESOTA FCST AREA DUE TO AREAS
OF DRIZZLE AND TO THE WRN EDGE OF THE NEXT AREA OF LIGHT RAIN
MOVING INTO SE SD/SW MN ATTM. THIS AREA IS PROGGED TO CLIP FAR
SOUTHEASTERN FCST AREA LATER TONIGHT-TUES MORNING. IN ERN ND
ISSUES WILL BE CLEARING...FOG AND LOW TEMPS. WRN EDGE OF LOW CLOUD
CLEARING TRYING EVER SO SLOWLY TO EDGE INTO THE LANGDON-LAKOTA-
COOPERSTOWN-VALLEY CITY AREAS. RUC MODEL SHOWS 925 MB MOISTURE
CLEARING A BIT THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH LOW CLD CLEARING REACHING
THE RED RIVER AREAS TOWARD 12Z. IF IT DOES CLEAR OUT IN THE RED
RIVER VALLEY BY MORNING WITH LIGHT WIND AND RAIN TODAY FOG WILL
SURELY FORM AND IT COULD BE DENSE. WILL MAINTAIN AREAS OF FOG CWA
WIDE OVERNIGHT INTO TUES 15Z AS PREV FCST HAD. MENTIONED 1/2SM
PSBL IN TAFS AT GFK/FAR/TVF/BJI.

&&
.AVIATION...TOUGH CALL FOR THE 12Z PERIOD FOR FARGO-GRAND FORKS
TAF SITES. LOW CLOUDS MAY CLEAR OUT FOR A WHILE...BUT IF IT DOES
WOULD EXPECT FOG AND LOW CLOUDS TO REFORM DUE TO WET GROUND AND
LIGHT WINDS. SO OVERALL NOT TO OPTIMISTIC FOR ANYTHING BUT IFR AND
MAYBE LOW MVFR CONDITIONS THRU 15Z TUES. LOW LEVEL DRY OUT TUESDAY
SO ONCE ANY LOW LEVEL CLOUDS/FOG GOES AWAY JUST SOME CIRRUS OR MID
CLOUD. TVF AND BJI SHOULD STAY WITH LOW CLOUDS THROUGH THE MID
MORNING HOURS ON TUESDAY WITH CLEARING IN THE AFTN. SOME FOG
POTENTIAL THESE AREAS WITH LIGHT WINDS. MENTIONED 1/2SM IN TEMPO
GROUPS THESE 4 TAF SITES AROUND 12Z. DVL AREA IS CLEAR NOW AND DID
NOT GET RAIN TODAY AND KEPT THEM VFR WITHOUT ANY FOG.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 250 PM CST MON NOV 23 2009/

SHORT TERM...
THE MAIN FORECAST CHALLENGE IS PCPN. WHEN LOOKING AT THE LATEST
SURFACE ANALYSIS...AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS CENTERED NEAR
BWP...WITH AN INVERTED TROF EXTENDING THROUGH THE RED RIVER VALLEY.
WHEN LOOKING AT THE MODELS...THE MODELS REMAIN IN PRETTY GOOD
AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK AND TIMING OF THE LOW AND ITS ASSOCIATED
PCPN THROUGH THE AREA TONIGHT. THUS...ENDED UP USING A MODEL BLEND
FOR THE FORECAST...LEANING TOWARD THE NAM FOR POPS AND THE ADJMAV
FOR TEMPS.

RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS AN AREA OF RAIN MAINLY ACROSS NE ND AND NW
MN...MOVING TO THE N. WITH THE BEST 850MB Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE AND
700MB LIFT MOVING NE TONIGHT WITH THE LOW...EXPECT RAIN TO END FROM
W TO E...WITH SOME LINGERING RAIN TOMORROW IN THE PKD-BDE AREAS.

A CLIPPER SYSTEM QUICKLY FOLLOWS FOR TUE NIGHT...BRINGING A CHANCE
FOR PCPN TO MUCH OF E ND...NW AND WC MN. WITH THE ATMOSPHERIC COLUMN
DROPPING BELOW FREEZING AS THIS SYSTEM APPROACHES...EXPECT THE PCPN
TO BE SNOW...WITH WINDY CONDITIONS DEVELOPING DURING THE DAY ON WED
AS THIS CLIPPER PASSES. WITH THIS CLIPPER PASSING QUICKLY...ANTICIPATE
SNOWFALL AMOUNTS AT THIS TIME TO BE AROUND ONE INCH BY THU MORNING.

A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO BUILD IN FOR THANKSGIVING
DAY...KEEPING THE N PLAINS DRY WITH A LITTLE COOLER TEMPERATURES.

LONG TERM [THU NIGHT-SUN]...
THE MAIN CHALLENGES IN THE LONG TERM INCLUDE DETERMINING PCPN
CHANCES ASSOCIATED WITH A LONG WAVE TROUGH THAT WILL CROSS THE
CENTRAL UNITED STATES THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS WELL
AS TEMPERATURES EARLY NEXT WEEK. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT MODEL
DIFFERENCES ARISING FROM THE WAY THE STRENGTHEN THE LONG WAVE
TROUGH AS IT PASSES OVER THE ROCKIES...WHICH IN TURN AFFECTS WHERE
THE MODELS FOCUS THE SURFACE LOW PRESSURE OVER THE CENTRAL UNITED
STATES. THE LATEST ECMWF IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ITS PREVIOUS RUN
AND FOCUSES THE SURFACE PRESSURE ACROSS THE S U.S. THE GEM AND
GFS ARE NOW MORE SIMILAR...BUT THE GEM SEEMS A LITTLE FAST.
THEREFORE...THE GFS WAS THE PREFERRED MODEL.

THU NIGHT THROUGH FRI NIGHT LOOKS DRY AS HIGH PRESSURE INFLUENCES
THE REGION. THE GEM BRINGS PCPN INTO THE REGION AS EARLY AS
SAT...BUT THINK THIS IS TOO FAST. THEREFORE...KEPT SAT DRY AND
BEGAN PCPN CHANCES SAT NIGHT. ALL THE MODELS LOOK COOL ENOUGH TO
INDICATE ALL SNOW. COLD AIR SHOULD THEN FOLLOW UP ANY PASSING LOW
PRESSURE SYSTEM EARLY NEXT WEEK.

&&

.FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
ND...NONE.
MN...NONE.
&&

$$
RIDDLE/NG





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