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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HASTINGS NE
1059 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009

.AVIATION...06Z KGRI TAF. VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE
PERIOD. HIGH CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE EARLY THIS MORNING
AND THERE COULD BE A FEW FLURRIES TOWARDS DAYBREAK...BUT WILL
LEAVE MENTION OF SNOW OUT OF THE TAF FOR NOW AS IT SHOULD NOT BE A
BIG DEAL...MAYBE JUST A FEW FLAKES. CLOUDS WILL THEN THIN OUT
AGAIN BUY MID MORNING. THE GREATER IMPACT WILL BE ANOTHER COLD
FRONT SURGING SOUTHEAST WITH INCREASING NORTHWEST
WINDS...ASSOCIATED WITH DECENT PRESSURE RISES BEHIND THE COLD
FRONT. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL BE ESPECIALLY GUSTY BY LATE MORNING
THROUGH MID AFTERNOON WITH GUSTS OF 25 TO 30 KTS.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 316 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009/

SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY. BIGGEST FORECAST
CHALLENGE WILL BE WIND SPEEDS FOR WEDNESDAY.

WATER VAPOR LOOP REVEALS THE TROUGH AXIS OF THE VIGOROUS LONGWAVE
THAT MOVED THROUGH LAST NIGHT CONTINUES ITS WAY INTO THE MISSISSIPPI
VALLEY. THE PROGRESSIVE PATTERN CONTINUES AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS
DIVING SOUTH SOUTHEAST INTO THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS TODAY...WITH A
SHORTWAVE RIDGE PRECEDING...AGAIN ALL WITHIN PROGRESSIVE NORTH
NORTHWEST FLOW. A LONGWAVE RIDGE IS MOVING ONTO THE WEST COAST.

FOR TONIGHT....THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE RIDGE WILL MOVE
THROUGH...WITH THE RIDGE AXIS CROSSING THE CWA ROUGHLY AROUND
MIDNIGHT. THIS WILL LEAD TO ASSUREDLY DRY CONDITIONS FOR THE
EVENING. THE AFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL BEGIN MOVING IN
LATE IN THE PERIOD...WITH WEST WIND BECOMING MORE NORTHWEST AND WITH
INCREASING SPEED BEHIND AN ATTENDANT COLD FRONT. SOME FLURRIES ARE
POSSIBLE WITH THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE...BUT MOISTURE IS MEAGER AND I
AM NOT EXPECTING MUCH OUT OF THIS. THE TREND IS A BIT FASTER FOR
THIS PARTICULAR SHORTWAVE...SO I WILL PROBABLY BRING THE ISOLATED
FLURRIES FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST SOUTH ANOTHER ROW OF COUNTIES TO
THE STATE LINE FOR THE 06Z TO 12Z TIME PERIOD...A MINOR CHANGE.
CONSIDERING THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE PATTERN...MODELS ARE IN
REMARKABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE TIMING OF THIS WAVE AND THE CLOSED LOW
ASSOCIATED WITH IT. WENT BELOW MODEL GUIDANCE FOR LOW TEMPERATURE.
THE TEMPERATURE CURVE WILL PROBABLY NOT BE A TYPICAL DIURNAL CURVE
THE PERIOD WILL BEGIN WITH CLEAR OR NEARLY CLEAR SKY...INCREASING
LATER IN THE PERIOD. DEWPOINTS ARE ALSO IN THE LOWER TO MID
20S...WHICH WILL ALSO AID IN THE QUICK DROP OFF. ALSO...WIND SPEEDS
PICK UP AFTER MIDNIGHT AS FRONT MOVES IN. THIS WILL LEND TO A SHARP
DROP OFF IN THE FIRST FEW HOURS OF THE EVENING...AND THEN A STEADY
OR SLOWLY FALLING TEMPERATURE FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT. WILL GO
GENERALLY BELOW MODEL GUIDANCE VALUES. I KNOCKED DOWN THE DEWPOINTS
A BIT FOR TONIGHT IN THE GRIDS.

FOR WEDNESDAY...A FEW MORNING FLURRIES MAY BE LEFT OVER IN THE
SOUTHERN CWA ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE...BUT
AGAIN...NOT MUCH IS EXPECTED WITH THIS. MODELS SUGGEST THAT MIXING
HEIGHTS WILL BE A BIT HIGHER THAN TODAY...NEAR 800 MB BY WEDNESDAY
AFTERNOON...LEADING TO A BIT MORE BRISK CONDITIONS COMPARED TO
CONDITIONS TODAY. MODELS HAVE GENERALLY BACKED OFF A BIT FOR
POTENTIAL WIND GUSTS...BUT WE STILL COULD GET 35 KT WIND GUSTS AND
SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS LOOK LIKE THEY WILL FLIRT WITH WIND ADVISORY
CRITERION FOR WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. A CLOSED LOW IS EXPECTED WITH THE
WAVE PASSING THROUGH...BUT ALL MODELS POINT TOWARD THIS FEATURE
REMAINING WELL NORTHEAST OF THE CWA...KEEPING US OUT OF ANY
MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL. GOING BELOW MODEL GUIDANCE
VALUES FOR HIGH TEMPERATURES...WITH A GOOD LITTLE PUNCH OF COLD AIR
ADVECTION EXPECTED.

FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT...TROUGH AXIS MOVES EAST OF THE CWA AND HELPS
DEEPEN THE LONGWAVE TROUGH TO THE EAST THAT WAS FIRST DEVELOPED FROM
THE WAVE WHICH PASSED THROUGH LAST NIGHT. THE FIRST WAVE WEAKENS AND
MOVES NORTHEAST INTO CANADA AS THE SECOND WAVE REINFORCES THE
LONGWAVE TROUGH IN THE MISSISSIPPI/OHIO VALLEY. LONGWAVE RIDGING
BEGINS TO BUILD IN ACROSS THE CWA...ONCE AGAIN ASSURING A DRY
FORECAST. HOLDING RELATIVELY CLOSE TO MODEL GUIDANCE NUMBERS FOR LOW
TEMPERATURES. I KNOCKED DOWN DEWPOINTS FOR THIS PERIOD BY A FEW
DEGREES.

LONG TERM...12Z THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.  PRIMARY FORECAST
CONCERN LIES WITH PRECIPITATION CHANCES.

FIRST PORTION OF THE LONG TERM PERIOD...THURSDAY THROUGH
SATURDAY...STILL ON TRACK TO BE DRY.  MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT AT
12Z THURSDAY...SHOWING A MORE AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL PATTERN ACROSS
THE CONUS.  TROUGH/POTENT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WHICH CROSSES THROUGH
ON WEDNESDAY SHIFTS ON INTO THE MIDWEST REGION...WITH A RIDGE
BUILDING IN ACROSS THE ROCKIES AS ANOTHER TROUGH APPROACHES THE
WEST COAST. THIS RIDGE REMAINS THE PRIMARY UPPER LEVEL FEATURE
ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. THE AXIS GRADUALLY
SHIFTS OUT OF THE ROCKIES...EVENTUALLY DRAPED THROUGH THE PLAINS
ON FRIDAY...BEFORE SHIFTING OFF FURTHER EAST AND BEGINNING TO
BREAK DOWN AS THE NEXT SYSTEM APPROACHES. AT THE SFC...HIGH
PRESSURE CENTERED TO THE SOUTH LINGERS AROUND THE CWA DURING THE
FIRST PART OF THURSDAY...BEFORE SHIFTING TO THE EAST AS A TROUGH
OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ALONG THE FRONT RANGE. THIS WILL BRING
LIGHTER WEST WINDS ON THURSDAY...GRADUALLY SWITCHING TO SOUTH
THURSDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING ON THROUGH FRIDAY. AS WE GET INTO
SATURDAY...THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN ACROSS THE PLAINS HAS
TRANSITIONED TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...AS THE NEXT SYSTEM TO IMPACT
THE AREA SITS OVER THE ROCKIES. A PIECE OF MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE
ENERGY MOVING THROUGH WILL PUSH A SFC COLD FRONT INTO THE CWA
DURING THE DAY...BUT NO PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED. AS FAR AS
TEMPERATURES GO THURS THROUGH SAT...WARMER HIGHS EXPECTED ON
THURSDAY...WITH THE WARMEST READINGS ON FRIDAY AS THAT UPPER LEVEL
RIDGE SITS OVERHEAD. HIGHS EXPECTED TO REACH WELL INTO THE
50S...WITH A FEW LOWER 60S POSSIBLE...ON FRIDAY BEFORE COOLING
BACK DOWN INTO THE UPPER 40S/LOWER 50S FOR SATURDAY.

CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST FROM SUNDAY THROUGH TUESDAY IS ON THE LOW
SIDE...AS MODELS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THE
SYSTEM MOVING OUT OF THE ROCKIES.  TIMING OF THE SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN
QUITE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS THE LOCATION/STRUCTURE HAS BEEN.
MODELS HAVE NOT VERY CONSISTENT ON WHETHER ITS MORE OF AN OPEN
TROUGH THAT PUSHES THROUGH OR A CLOSED LOW...AND WHETHER THE MORE
ORGANIZED STRUCTURE/LIFT/PRECIP SHIFTS THROUGH THE NORTHERN OR
SOUTHERN PLAINS. FORECAST IS TRENDED MORE TOWARDS THE SLIGHTLY
MORE CONSISTENT ECMWF...AND KEPT PRECIP MENTION CONFINED TO THE
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CWA...AS THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM
CROSS THROUGH KANSAS. HAVE THE TIMING OF THE POPS RUNNING FROM
SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY...BUT ADJUSTMENTS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS ARE
LIKELY AS MODELS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT. REGARDLESS TO THE
EXACT PATH OF THE SYSTEM...COOLER TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED WITH
THE PASSAGE OF THE COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY...AND TRENDED BACK HIGHS
FOR SUN THROUGH TUES BACK INTO THE UPPER 30S/LOWER 40S.

&&

.GID WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
NE...NONE.
KS...NONE.
&&

$$







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