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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
1159 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009

.AVIATION... /06Z TAF ISSUANCE/

AN INVERTED TROUGH OVER FAR WESTERN WI WILL BE THE FOCUS FOR
IFR/LOW MVFR CONDITIONS AT KRNH AND KEAU THROUGH MUCH OF THE
UPCOMING TAF PERIOD. DRIZZLE WILL BE COMMON THROUGH THE MORNING
THEN MORE OF A STEADY RAIN WILL DEVELOP AS A STRONG LOW PRESSURE
SYSTEM ALOFT APPROACHES FROM NORTH DAKOTA. PROFILE DATA INDICATES
THE RAIN SHOULD MIX WITH SNOW TOWARD EVENING WITH A PERIOD OF
LIGHT SNOW BEFORE IT ENDS WEDNESDAY NIGHT. IFR/LIFR CONDITIONS
ACROSS EASTERN MN...INCLUDING KMSP...SHOULD IMPROVE SOME OVERNIGHT
AS DRIER AIR WORKS IN BEHIND THE INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH TO THE
EAST. SOME POTENTIAL THAT KMSP COULD BE VFR BETWEEN 12Z AND 15Z
BEFORE THE NEXT UPSTREAM SYSTEM BRINGS A LOWERING OF CEILINGS AND
VISIBILITIES. LIGHT RAIN SHOULD DEVELOP AT KMSP BY MID MORNING AND
PERSIST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. AS COLDER AIR FILTERS IN...THE RAIN
SHOULD MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AND LAST
INTO THE EARLY EVENING BEFORE ENDING. KSTC IS CURRENTLY ON THE
VERGE OF CLEARING. HOWEVER...POTENTIAL IS HIGH FOR IFR/LIFR IN FOG
WITH VERY MOIST LOW LEVEL CONDITIONS IN PLACE. CLEARING WILL NOT
LAST LONG AS MID LEVEL MOISTURE SPREADS IN BEFORE DAYBREAK WITH
LIGHT SNOW LIKELY DURING THE MORNING AS A STRONG LOW PRESSURE
SYSTEM ALOFT PASSES BY. IMPROVING CONDITIONS FOR KSTC DURING THE
LATE AFTERNOON ALONG WITH NORTHWEST WINDS AT 15 TO 25 KNOTS.
ALTHOUGH KAXN AND KRWF ARE CURRENTLY VFR...THEY ARE ALREADY
SEEING MID/HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE INCREASE AHEAD OF THE UPPER LOW
OVER NORTH DAKOTA. LIGHT SNOW SHOULD DEVELOP/SPREAD INTO BOTH
SITES BETWEEN 09Z AND 12Z AND THEN CONTINUE DURING THE MORNING
WITH IFR/LOW MVFR CONDITIONS OCCURRING. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL BE ON
THE INCREASE BY 17Z WITH 16-18 KNOTS SUSTAINED GUSTING TO 30 KNOTS
OR SO FOR THE AFTERNOON. ONLY FLURRIES EXPECTED FOR THE AFTERNOON
WITH CEILINGS LIFTING TO NEAR 3000 FEET.

&&

.DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 138 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009/

ALTHOUGH CURRENT TRENDS INDICATE A STRONG AND DEEPENING AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES IN THE NEXT 24/48 HRS...THERE
REMAINS SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES IN THE THERMAL PROFILE THAT WILL
HIGHLY INFLUENCE SNOWFALL AMTS AS THE -RA/-DZ CHANGES OVER TO
MAINLY -SN LATE TONIGHT...AND INTO WEDNESDAY.

CURRENT RADAR AND SATELLITE TRENDS INDICATED A PERSISTENT AREA OF
-RA/-DZ ACROSS MOSTLY THE EASTERN 1/2 OF CWA. SFC LOW AND
ASSOCIATED AREA OF LIFT THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO AMPLE CONVECTIVE
ALONG AND AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ACROSS EASTERN MO...THERE
REMAINS A WEAK AREA OF CONVERGENCE ACROSS EASTERN MN WHICH WILL
WEAKEN OVERNIGHT AS THE SFC REFLECTION MOVES EASTWARD ACROSS
IL...AND INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES.

A PERIOD OF SUBSIDENCE IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM...AND THE NEXT
SYSTEM ALREADY DIVING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND
NORTHERN PLAINS...WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MAINLY CLOUDY SKIES IN THE
WESTERN 1/2 OF CWA. CURRENT SFC ANALYSIS INDICATED -SN ALREADY
DEVELOPING ACROSS NORTHERN MONTANA...WITH BRISK N/NW WINDS.
USUALLY THESE TYPE OF SYSTEMS (ALBERTA CLIPPER) ARE FAST AND
PRODUCE TWO TO FOUR INCHES OF -SN ALONG AND JUST NORTH OF THE SFC
LOW. HOWEVER...THERE ARE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THIS AMT OF SNOWFALL
EXPECTED BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. FIRST...IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WARM
FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR IN TERMS OF LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELDS.
SECONDLY...THE SFC REFLECTION IS WEAK AND THIS SYSTEM IS MORE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE 70H/50H TROUGH AXIS. THEREFORE...DUE TO THESE
CONDITIONS...SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE LIGHT AND UNDER TWO INCHES.
THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE SNOWFALL AMTS WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH
CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY ALOFT WHICH IS NOT FORECAST BY ANY SHORT
TERM MODEL AT THIS TIME. PLUS...THERE REMAINS TOO MANY MODEL
DIFFERENCES WITH THE DEPTH OF COLD AIR. ONE ELEMENT THAT IS IN
OUR FAVOR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES IS THE JET
DYNAMICS...AND HOW THE NOSE OF THE PVU (1.5 OR GREATER)...AND
ASSOCIATED DRY SLOT WILL ENHANCE LARGE SCALE LIFT. CURRENTLY THE
GFS/EC HAS EASTERN MN FAVOR FOR THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO...WITH THE
NAM/WRF FAVORING WEST-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. DUE TO THE SPEED OF THIS
SYSTEM...MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE PRECIPITATION FREE BY LATE
WEDNESDAY NIGHT...WITH THURSDAY/FRIDAY DRY.

THE EXTENDED PERIOD FROM SATURDAY THRU NEXT TUESDAY REMAINS
FAVORABLE FOR A LONG WAVE TROUGH DEVELOPING ACROSS THE CENTRAL
U.S. OVER THE WEEKEND/EARLY NEXT WEEK. AS PER THE LATEST GFS/EC
...THE SOUTHERN JET WILL BE MORE ACTIVE...ALLOWING FOR ONLY
SUBTLE/WEAK WAVES AFFECTING OUR REGION. HOWEVER...IT SHOULD BE
COOL ENOUGH FOR MOSTLY SNOW...OR AT LEAST A MIXTURE DEPENDING UPON
THE EXACT TRACK OF THE SFC REFLECTION OF THE WAVES. ..JLT..

&&

.MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MN...NONE.
WI...NONE.
&&

$$

RAH/JLT





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