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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI
401 AM CST MON NOV 23 2009

.SHORT TERM...TODAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY

AT 3 AM...A BAND OF RAIN WAS MOVING NORTH ACROSS PARTS OF
NORTHEAST IOWA...SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA...AND WEST CENTRAL WISCONSIN.
THIS RAIN WAS ASSOCIATED WITH MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND FRONTOGENESIS
AHEAD OF A SHORT WAVE TROUGH MOVING NORTHEAST ACROSS EASTERN SOUTH
DAKOTA...SOUTHERN MINNESOTA...IOWA...AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS. WHILE
THE COURSER 23.00Z MODELS ARE SHOWING THAT THIS RAIN WILL CONTINUE
THROUGH 23.12Z...THE 4 KM SPC NAM WRF INDICATES THAT THIS
RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST 23.15Z AND THEN IT MOVES
QUICKLY NORTH THROUGH SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA AND WEST CENTRAL
WISCONSIN BETWEEN BETWEEN 23.15Z AND 23.18Z. SINCE THIS MODEL IS
DOING SO WELL THIS MORNING...THE FORECAST FOR TODAY WAS TRENDED
TOWARD IT.

LIKE THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS...IT CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE THE BEST
FORCING AND MOISTURE TRANSPORT WILL REMAIN WEST OF THE FORECAST
AREA THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. AS A RESULT...THESE FORECAST
PERIODS WERE LEFT DRY.

FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...THE MODELS HAVE
CONTINUED TO TREND A BIT FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE LOW PRESSURE AREA.
THE NAM/WRF IS BY FAR THE FARTHEST SOUTH WITH THIS SYSTEM. IT IS
ACTUALLY AN OUTLIER WHEN COMPARED WITH THE GFS...GEM...AND ECMWF.
DUE TO THIS...THE NAM/WRF WAS NOT USED FOR THESE TIME PERIODS.
THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO LOWER THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ALONG AND
NORTH OF INTERSTATE 94 ON TUESDAY...BUT THERE WAS STILL ENOUGH CONCERN
THAT THIS PRECIPITATION MAY BE A BIT FURTHER NORTH THAT THERE WAS
LITTLE CHANGE TO THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES IN THESE AREAS. WHILE
THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THIS...THERE WAS SOME TIMING FOR THE RAIN
ADDED TO THE GRIDS ON TUESDAY.

ON WEDNESDAY...IT CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL
MOVE INTO THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON. DUE TO THIS A
NON DIURNAL TEMPERATURE CURVE WAS USED. IN ADDITION...THE SNOW
CHANCES WERE REMOVED ACROSS WESTERN WISCONSIN...AND DELAYED UNTIL
THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON IN NORTHWEST IOWA AND SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA.

.LONG TERM...WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY

THE 23.00Z GFS...GEM...AND ECMWF CONTINUES TO SHOW THAT A
SECONDARY SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL DROP INTO THE LONG WAVE TROUGH
LOCATED ACROSS NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS...MID AND UPPER
MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEYS...GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY ON
WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THIS GREATLY ENHANCES THE FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS
WISCONSIN...EASTERN MINNESOTA...AND NORTHERN IOWA. IN ADDITION...
THE SURFACE LOW SLOWLY DEEPENS AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST ACROSS
SOUTHERN AND EASTERN WISCONSIN. AS THIS OCCURS...THE GFS INDICATES
THAT WARM AIR ALOFT /POSSIBLY RELATED TO A TROWAL/ IS BROUGHT BACK
WESTWARD INTO THE FORECAST AREA. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF KEEPS THIS
WARM AIR FURTHER EAST AND THE PRECIPITATION TYPE REMAINS IN THE
FORM OF SNOW. WITH SOME UNCERTAINTY IN THE PRECIPITATION TYPE
ACROSS WISCONSIN...A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW WAS INTRODUCED INTO THE
WEATHER GRIDS FOR OUR WISCONSIN COUNTIES FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND
THANKSGIVING. MEANWHILE FURTHER WEST ACROSS SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA
AND NORTHEAST IOWA...IT LOOKS LIKE THE PRECIPITATION TYPE WILL BE
MAINLY SNOW.

A MAJORITY OF THE GFS MREF PLUMES SHOW LESS THAN 2 INCHES OF SNOW
WITH THIS SYSTEM. HOWEVER THERE ARE TWO OF THEM WHICH HAVE
SNOWFALL TOTALS AROUND 6 INCHES. WHILE THERE WILL LIKELY BE A MIX
OF RAIN AND SNOW IN LA CROSSE...THE PRECIPITATION TYPE PLUMES
STILL SHOW SOME LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS /LESS THAN AN INCH/.
MEANWHILE WITH THE PRECIPITATION STAYING IN THE FORM OF SNOW IN
THE EMF...THE SNOWFALL AMOUNTS ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA RANGE
FROM 4 TO 9 INCHES. NEEDLESS TO SAY...THIS SYSTEM STILL BEARS
SOME WATCHING.

&&

.AVIATION...TODAY AND TONIGHT

BAND OF -RA CONTINUED TO EXTEND FROM NEAR DLH SOUTH ACROSS RST AND
INTO SOUTHERN IA. RAIN WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME FRONTOGENETIC
FORCING...ISENTROPIC UPGLIDE...AND IN AN AREA OF 850MB MOISTURE
TRANSPORT. LATEST RUC13 AND NAM12 SHIFTS THIS FORCING WEST/NORTHWEST
LATE THIS MORNING...AND SO SHOULD THE LIGHT RAIN. OTHER MESO MODELS
//SPCWRF...ETC// ALSO SUPPORT THIS. LATEST FOG/STRATUS SATELLITE
IMAGERY...COUPLED WITH SFC OBS...PLACED CEILINGS ACROSS THE LOCAL
AREA FROM 6 TO 10 KFT. SATELLITE TRENDS WERE SHIFTING THIS AC DECK TO
THE NORTH/NORTHWEST WITH WIND PROFILERS AND VAD WINDS SHOWING
BACKING TO THE SOUTHEAST IN THE 925-700 MB LAYER OVER THE PAST FEW
HOURS. JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS CLOUD MASS THE SKIES WERE
CLEAR...WHICH WAS RESULTING IN SOME FOG AND STRATUS FORMATION OVER
NORTHERN ILL/SOUTHEAST WI. WILL HAVE TO MONITOR TRENDS BEFORE 12Z
ISSUANCE TO SEE IF SOME OF THESE LOWER CEILINGS/FOG COULD IMPACT THE
KLSE. BELIEVE KRST WILL BE TOO FAR WEST. REGARDLESS....3-5SM MVFR BR
SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING.

UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL BE MOVING OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BY 12Z
TUES...AND THERE LOOKS TO BE A DECENT SURGE OF MOISTURE NORTHWARD
AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM. CEILINGS WILL GRADUALLY LOWER...POTENTIALLY
IFR CONDITIONS BY TUES NIGHT. HOWEVER...IF THE CURRENT MID CLOUDS
STAY MOSTLY WEST/NORTH OF KRST/KLSE TONIGHT...SOME FG AND STRATUS
DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR BY 12Z TUES. NUMERICAL GUIDANCE POINTS TO THIS
POSSIBILITY. CONFIDENCE NOT PARTICULARLY HIGH AT THE MOMENT...BUT
TRENDS WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED. WILL HINT AT THIS POSSIBILITY...
WITH LATER UPDATES REFINING THE POTENTIAL.

&&

.ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
WI...NONE.
MN...NONE.
IA...NONE.
&&

$$

SHORT/LONG TERM...BOYNE
AVIATION...RIECK





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