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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
1222 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009

LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION...

.SYNOPSIS...(436 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
WE WILL SEE ONE MORE DRY AND MILD DAY.  THEN RAIN WILL MOVE IN
TONIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE APPROACHES THE STATE.  SINCE THIS LOW WILL
BE A SLOW MOVER...THE PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY
NIGHT.  COOLER AIR WILL BE PUSHED INTO THE REGION BY LATE WEDNESDAY
NIGHT WHEN THE RAIN COULD BECOME MIXED WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW.  THE
MIXTURE SHOULD CONTINUE INTO THANKSGIVING DAY...HOWEVER ANY
ACCUMULATION OF SNOW IS EXPECTED TO BE MINIMAL.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(436 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
(TODAY THROUGH THANKSGIVING DAY)
THE MAIN FORECAST ISSUES CONTINUED TO CENTERED ON THE LOW PRESSURE
THAT WAS NEAR KANSAS CITY THIS MORNING.  THIS SYSTEM WILL BE TEAMED
UP WITH AN UPPER LOW THAT WILL DIVE ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS BY
EARLY WEDNESDAY.  IT WILL BE THIS UPPER LOW THAT BRINGS IN COOLER
AIR AND THE CHANCE OF RAIN MIXING WITH SNOW LATE IN THE SHORT TERM
PERIOD.

PCPN FROM THE KANSAS CITY LOW WAS ALREADY SPREADING EAST TOWARD THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER EARLY THIS MORNING.  IT SHOULD TAKE UNTIL EVENING
BEFORE THE DEEPER MOISTURE ARRIVES OVER SW MI.  WILL KEEP THE
FORECAST DRY FOR MUCH OF THE DAY WITH ONLY A SLGT CHANCE OF MOVING
INTO THE LAKESHORE COUNTIES AROUND SUNSET.

THE STACKED LOW HEADS FOR SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN BY LATE TONIGHT
AND WILL SPREAD RAIN FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE CWA.  THE LEFT
EXIT REGION OF THE UPPER JET PUSHES NORTHWARD ACROSS LAKE
MICHIGAN/WESTERN MI WHICH MAY ASSIST IN POCKETS OF HEAVIER RAIN.
HAVE INCREASED POPS TO CATEGORICAL ACROSS THE CWA.

BY WEDNESDAY THE UPPER LOW BEGINS TO SHEAR AND WEAKEN AS IT HEADS
TOWARD THE TIP OF THE MITT.  THE RAIN SHOULD BECOME MORE
SCATTERED...ESPECIALLY AROUND MID DAY...WITH THIS WEAKENING TREND.

BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT THE NORTHERN STREAM UPPER LOW FROM THE NORTHERN
PLAINS BECOMES THE MAIN PLAYER.  IT SHOULD MOVE FROM EASTERN IA TO
NORTHERN IN OVERNIGHT.  IT WILL BRING ANOTHER WAVE OF RAIN ACROSS
THE CWA ALONG WITH COOLER AIR MOVING IN FROM THE SW.  THE MODELS
CONTINUE TO BE CONSISTENT SHOWING IT COOL ENOUGH FOR A RAIN/SNOW MIX
AFTER 06Z ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA.

AS THE UPPER LOW GOES BY THURSDAY MORNING WE MAY GET DRY SLOTTED
WITH THE MOISTURE BECOMING SHALLOW...SO HAVE LOWER POPS EARLY IN THE
DAY.  HOWEVER SOME LAKE EFFECT SHOULD BE GETTING STARTED IN A SW
FLOW...SO WILL KEEP HIGHER POPS FOR THE NW CWA.  THEN INTO THE
AFTERNOON AS THE LOW HEADS FOR WESTERN LAKE ERIE DEEPER MOISTURE
WILL RETURN.  LIKELY POPS FOR THE LAKESHORE DUE TO LAKE
ENHANCEMENT...AND HIGH CHANCE POPS WILL BE CONTINUED INLAND FOR A
RAIN/SNOW MIX.  THERE COULD BE A FEW AREAS THAT SEE A DUSTING OF
SNOW ON GRASSY AREAS BY THURSDAY EVENING.  BUT WITH TEMPS REACHING
AROUND 40 AND WITH A WARM GROUND...ROADS SHOULD REMAIN WET.

&&

.LONG TERM...(436 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
(THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY)
DEEP MOISTURE AND LIFT IS PROGGED TO BE SWINGING THROUGH THE REGION
THURSDAY NIGHT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE UPPER LOW. GFS BUFKIT
OVERVIEW INDICATES THAT THE -12C TO -16C DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH
REGION WILL BE ACTIVATED MUCH OF THE NIGHT. THE FCST SOUNDINGS ALSO
SHOW NO INVERSION PRESENT ALOFT WITH H8 TEMPS AROUND -5C AND DELTA
T/S AROUND 14C... SO WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE SOME FAIRLY DECENT
LAKE EFFECT/ENHANCED CONVECTION TAKING PLACE.

NORTHWEST FLOW IS PROGGED TO BECOME RATHER STRONG WITH 30 KTS SEEN
AT 925 MB AND THAT SHOULD BE CARRYING THE CONVECTION BUT ALSO THE
WARMER MARINE AIR QUITE A DISTANCE INLAND FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. AS
SUCH IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE PCPN THURSDAY NIGHT WILL STILL REMAIN
PREDOMINATELY MIXED... ALTHOUGH WHERE THE MORE INTENSE BANDS PERSIST
THERE COULD CERTAINLY BE A COATING OF WET SNOW ACCUMULATION.

H5 LONGWAVE TROUGH AND COLD AIR SHOULD BE DEPARTING EITHER FRIDAY OR
FRIDAY NIGHT... THEN A PERIOD OF QUIET WX WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS IS
EXPECTED AS UPPER RIDGING IMPACTS THE REGION. A DIGGING LONGWAVE
TROUGH IN THE CENTER OF THE NATION INDUCES DEEP SOUTHWEST FLOW INTO
MICHIGAN... WHICH LEADS TO A CHANCE OF RAIN SUNDAY INTO MONDAY.

&&

.AVIATION...(1222 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
MAIN CONCERNS TO AVIATION INTERESTS WILL BE RESIDUAL LOWER
CONDITIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD...AND POTENTIAL LOWER
CONDITIONS WITH THE FRONT MOVING IN TONIGHT.

17Z OBS SHOW THAT MOST OF ALL THE IFR HAS DISSIPATED ACROSS
TERMINALS. A COUPLE OF POCKETS OF IFR REMAIN...HOWEVER WE EXPECT
THESE LOCATIONS TO IMPROVE BY THE VALID TIME OF THE TERMINALS.

WE EXPECT THAT MVFR-VFR CONDITIONS WILL HOLD IN THROUGH 00Z BEFORE
CONDITIONS START DETERIORATING ONCE AGAIN AS THE SUN SETS AND THE
FRONT APPROACHES. IFR WILL BE LIKELY AS RAINFALL BEGINS AND THE
FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE AREA. CORE TIME OF THIS IFR LOOKS TO BE FROM
AROUND 02-12Z. AS THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH...CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE
SLIGHTLY TO MVFR BETWEEN 10-12Z AND WINDS WILL BE SW.

&&

.MARINE...(436 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
IT WILL REMAIN FAIRLY CALM ON THE LAKE UNTIL THE FIRST SURFACE LOW
ON WEDNESDAY PASSES BY AROUND MID DAY.  ONCE THE COLD ADVECTION
BEGINS WINDS AND WAVES WILL BE ON THE INCREASE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON
INTO THE EVENING.  A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED.
&&

.HYDROLOGY...(436 AM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF PCPN IS EXPECTED FROM TONIGHT THROUGH
THANKSGIVING DAY.  HOWEVER...THIS PCPN IS EXPECTED TO BE FAIRLY
LIGHT WITH MOST AREAS SEEING AROUND A HALF INCH OF RAIN.  THE PCPN
SHOULD BE A BIT HEAVIER WEST AND LIGHTER EAST DUE TO LAKE
ENHANCEMENT INTO WED NIGHT/THURSDAY.

&&

.GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LM...NONE.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS:     JK
SHORT TERM:   JK
LONG TERM:    MEADE
AVIATION:     MEADE
MARINE:       JK
HYDROLOGY:    JK

















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