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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI
1228 AM EST MON NOV 23 2009

UPDATED FOR 06Z AVIATION DISCUSSION

.SYNOPSIS... /ISSUED AT 400 PM EST/

WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOW A SPLIT FLOW ACROSS THE
CONUS/SRN CANADA. IN THE SRN BRANCH...A TROF WAS SHIFTING E OF THE
ROCKIES AND A DOWNSTREAM RIDGE WAS ALONG THE E COAST. IN THE SW FLOW
INTO THE GREAT LAKES...A TROF WITH A COUPLE OF EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES
WAS LIFTING THRU THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND WRN GREAT LAKES.
SHRA ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF THE SHORTWAVES HAS BEEN OCCURRING ACROSS
NRN AND ERN MN INTO NW WI AND WRN LAKE SUPERIOR. SHRA OCCASIONALLY
AFFECTED THE FAR WRN FCST AREA IN THE KIWD VCNTY EARLIER IN THE DAY.
THE OTHER SHORTWAVE IN THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY IS ALSO GENERATING SOME
-SHRA...BUT WITH MUCH LESS COVERAGE. OTHER THAN THE EARLY SHRA
AROUND KIWD...THE REMAINDER OF THE FCST AREA HAS BEEN DRY TODAY...
BUT FOG WAS SLOW TO DISSIPATE.

&&

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND TUE)... /ISSUED AT 400 PM EST/

WEAKENING MIDLEVEL TROF WILL LIFT NE OF THE AREA TONIGHT. EVEN PRIOR
TO ITS EXIT...PCPN IS NOT MUCH OF A CONCERN AS DRIER AIR NOTED ON
12Z KGRB SOUNDING IS MOVING NNW OVER THE FCST AREA. ONLY POSSIBLE
EXCEPTION IS OVER THE FAR W AS TAIL END OF SHORTWAVE OVER THE ERN
DAKOTAS/WRN MN HAS RECENTLY BEGAN TO GENERATE A NARROW BAND OF
-SHRA/SPRINKLES SWD INTO SE MN. WILL NEED TO MONITOR -SHRA PROGRESS
OVER THE NEXT FEW HRS...BUT FOR NOW WILL MAINTAIN A DRY FCST TONIGHT
OVER WRN UPPER MI AS PCPN SHOULD ENCOUNTER DRIER AIR. THIS INFLUX OF
DRIER AIR HAS BEEN NOTED NICELY BY SHARP SE EDGE TO PCPN LIFTING N
OVER MN/NW WI/WRN LAKE SUPERIOR TODAY. OTHERWISE...STAGE WILL AGAIN
BE SET FOR FOG ACROSS MOST OF THE FCST AREA TONIGHT AS BOUNDARY
LAYER MOISTURE REMAINS VERY HIGH. FOG WILL BE LEAST LIKELY/LEAST
DENSE IN LOCATIONS THAT SEE DOWNSLOPING UNDER LIGHT S TO SE WINDS
WHICH INCLUDES MAINLY THE AREAS NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. FOG SHOULD BE
MOST DENSE ACROSS CNTRL UPPER MI WHERE LIGHT WINDS WILL BE
UPSLOPING. IT WILL BE ANOTHER NIGHT OF WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS WITH
MINS AOA NORMAL HIGH TEMPS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.

AS WAS THE CASE TODAY...EXPECT FOG TO BE SLOW TO DISSIPATE TUE
MORNING. THEN ATTENTION TURNS TO SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY MOVING ACROSS
WRN KS. DEEP LAYER FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE WILL STAY S
OF UPPER MI THRU TUE AFTN. SFC TROF EXTENDING N FROM DEVELOPING SFC
LOW OVER MO/IA WILL REMAIN NEARLY STATIONARY TUE OVER MN...AND THIS
SHOULD KEEP ANY SHRA IN THE VCNTY OF TROF TO THE W OF UPPER MI.
HOWEVER...WITH THE PRESENCE OF WEAK ISENTROPIC ASCENT...WILL KEEP A
MENTION OF SLIGHT CHC POPS OVER THE FAR W TUE AFTN.

.LONG TERM (TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT MONDAY)...

UPPER PATTERN STARTS OUT STILL LOOKING MILD...WITH A WESTERLY SPLIT
FLOW ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA INTO THE CONUS. INITIAL SHORTWAVE TROUGH
OVR THE CNTRL MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY LIFTS NORTHEAST TOWARD THE
UPR GREAT LAKES ON TUE NIGHT AS ANOTHER SHORTWAVE DIGS INTO THE
NORTHERN PLAINS. LIKELY POPS LATE TUE NIGHT INTO WED WITH LEAD WAVE
AND ENHANCEMENT PROVIDED BY UPPER DIVERGENCE IN LFQ OF JET STREAK
MOVING INTO THE CNTRL GREAT LAKES. 1000-500MB/1000-850MB CRITICAL
THICKNESSES IN THE VCNTY OF THE LEAD SHORTWAVE ARE HIGH ENOUGH TO
ONLY JUSTIFY RAIN AS PTYPE THROUGH WED. ADVECTION OF DWPNTS IN THE
UPR 30S/AROUND 40F WELL ABOVE CURRENT 2 INCH GROUND TEMPS IN THE LWR
30S ALONG WITH PERSISTENT SE LOW-LEVEL WINDS...AS WELL AS JUST A
PERSISTENCE FCST...RESULTS IN MORE FOG TUE NIGHT INTO WED...
ESPECIALLY IN THE UPSLOPE AREAS OF CNTRL CWA.

SECOND SHORTWAVE DIGGING IN FM THE NORTHERN PLAINS DEEPENING OVR THE
UPR GREAT LAKES WED NIGHT INTO THU HELPS DRAW SLIGHTLY COLDER AIR IN
FM CNTRL CANADA. CYCLONIC FLOW THROUGH H85 AND DEEP MOISTURE LEADS
TO CONTINUING LIKELY POPS WED NIGHT INTO THU. CRITICAL THICKNESSES
AND H85 TEMPS MARGINAL FOR MUCH IN THE WAY OF SNOW WED NIGHT BUT DO
CONTINUE TO LOWER ON THANKSGIVING. SOUNDINGS OFF GFS IN THE FAR WRN
CWA INDICATE ABOVE FREEZING LAYER IS ONLY IN THE LOWEST 50 MB WITH
DEEP MOISTURE INTERSECTING THE -10C TO -15C ISOTHERMS...SO MAJORITY
OF PCPN IN THOSE AREAS SHOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW. SOUNDINGS AND
THICKNESSES INDICATE WARMER AIR PERSISTS THROUGH ALL OF THU OVR THE
CNTRL AND EAST...SO PTYPE THROUGH THU SHOULD STAY IN THE FORM OF
RAIN AWAY FM THE WESTERN CWA. POTENTIAL FOR RAIN AMOUNTS TO EXCEED
ONE-HALF INCH OVR THE SOUTH AND EAST CWA LATE WED INTO WED NIGHT DUE
TO DEVELOPING DEFORMATION AREA ON NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPING UPPER
LOW. GFS/ECMWF/NAM/UKMET/CANADIAN IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THIS
POSSIBILITY.

NE FLOW AND DWPNTS WELL INTO THE 30S ON WED EVENING SHOULD INITIALLY
RESULT IN FOG IN THE UPSLOPE AREAS OF NW CWA LATER WED INTO WED
NIGHT AND PERHAPS INTO THU MORNING. SETUP MAY FAVOR DENSE FOG.
OVERALL...THE FOG AND MIX OF LGT RAIN AND SNOW MAY LEAD TO TRICKY
TRAVEL LATE ON WED INTO THU MORNING. ON THE FLIP SIDE...TEMPS
REMAINING WARM IN THE BLYR ALSO CUTS DOWN ON SNOW AMOUNTS OVR THE
WESTERN CWA. WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION THE SYSTEM IN THE HAZARDOUS
WEATHER OUTLOOK DUE TO THE SLOPPY MIX OF RAIN/SNOW AND POTENTIALLY
DENSE FOG.

DIFFERENCES ARISE IN HOW DEEP TROUGH BECOMES OVR THE GREAT LAKES
INTO FRIDAY. ESSENTIALLY...OPERATIONAL GFS IS STRONGEST AND HAS
MUCH COLDER AIR INTO FRIDAY WITH H85 TEMPS BLO -8C. ABOUT HALF OF
THE GEFS ENSEMBLES INDICATE STRONGER TROUGH...WHILE THE OTHER HALF
OF THE MEMBERS ARE MORE IN LINE WITH ECMWF/ECMWF ENSEMBLES AND
CANADIAN/CANADIAN ENSEMBLES WHICH INDICATE TROUGH DEPARTING EARLY
AND MUCH WARMER H85 TEMPS ONLY AROUND -2C ON FRI. LATEST ECMWF HAS
TRENDED COLDER THOUGH. IF USING THE UKMET TO BREAK THE TIE...IT TOO
IS SIMILAR TO ECMWF AND CANADIAN BY BUILDING A RIDGE FM THE NORTHERN
PLAINS TO THE UPR LAKES ON FRIDAY. IN GENERAL...KEPT THEME OF PREV
FCST WITH LOW CHANCE POPS IN NW FLOW AREAS NEAR LK SUPERIOR OVR THE
ERN CWA.

HPC PREFERRED ECMWF/CANADIAN AND ENSEMBLES POINT TO RIDGING AND
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPS FOR EARLY WEEKEND...BUT QUICK FLOW ALLOWS TROUGH
TO ALREADY PUSH INTO THE UPR LAKES BY LATE NEXT WEEKEND. 00Z ECMWF
WAS QUICKER WITH ARRIVAL OF TROUGH...BUT LATEST GFS/CANADIAN HAVE
ALSO TRENDED TOWARD PCPN ON SUN. COMPARED TO THE ENSEMBLES...00Z
ECMWF LOOKS A BIT QUICK AND DEEP WITH ITS SFC LOW PUSHING ACROSS AS
EARLY AS SUN. INTERESTING THAT 12Z ECMWF IS NOT AS STRONG/WIDESPREAD
WITH QPF. USED SLIGHT CHANCE POPS FOR SUN UNTIL TRENDS BECOME MORE
CLEAR. ALSO USED SMALL CHANCE POPS FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK AS UPPER
TROUGH/UNSETTLED WEATHER AFFECTS UPR LAKES. TEMPS SHOULD ALSO TRY
TO TREND BACK TOWARD NORMAL FOR LATE NOVEMBER EARLY NEXT WEEK.

&&

.AVIATION /FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE/...

LOOK FOR MORE FOG AND LOW STRATUS TO REDEVELOP OVERNIGHT AT
KCMX/KSAW UNDER LIGHT WINDS/NOCTURNAL COOLING. EXPECT LIFR
CONDITIONS AT KSAW BY 10Z UNDER LIGHT UPSLOPING SSE WINDS. SSE WINDS
AT KCMX WILL BE LESS FAVORABLE FOR THICK FOG SO ONLY HAVE CONDITIONS
LOWERING TO IFR THERE LATE TONIGHT. SIMILAR TO TODAY...CIG/VIS
IMPROVEMENT TUE MORNING WILL BE VERY SLOW AT BOTH TAF SITES.
EVENTUALLY EXPECT FOG TO DISSIPATE AND CIGS TO RAISE TO MVFR BY
EARLY TUE AFTERNOON. VSBYS SHOULD LOWER TO MVFR AGAIN BY LATE TUE
EVENING.

&&

.MARINE /FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE/...

LIGHT WINDS UNDER 20KT SHOULD BE THE RULE THRU TUE NIGHT UNDER A
WEAK PRES GRADIENT BTWN HIGH PRES OVER SE CANADA AND ORGANIZING LOW
PRES OVER THE CNTRL PLAINS. AS THE LOW MOVES ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT
LAKES THRU THU AND THEN REDEVELOPS OVER THE MID ATLANTIC STATES AND
NEW ENGLAND FRI...N WINDS WILL INCREASE LATE WED AND THU. A PERIOD
OF 20-30KT N WINDS APPEARS LIKELY ACROSS MUCH OF LAKE SUPERIOR WED
NIGHT INTO FRI ALTHOUGH WINDS WILL BEGIN TO DIMINISH OVER THE W THU
NIGHT. A HIGH PRES RIDGE WILL ARRIVE FRI NIGHT AND SAT...BRINGING
LIGHTER WINDS.

&&

.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...ROLFSON
LONG TERM...JLA
AVIATION...JV
MARINE...ROLFSON





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