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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
1150 PM CST MON NOV 23 2009

.AVIATION... /06Z TAF ISSUANCE/

INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH MEANDERS SOUTH TO NORTH ACROSS WESTERN MN
ATTM...JUST TO THE EAST OF KRWF AND KAXN. CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES
CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE AHEAD OF THE TROUGH IN THE VERY WARM AND
HUMID AIR MASS. RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT FROM KMSP ON
WEST AND SOUTH ACROSS SOUTHERN MN AS A VIGOROUS STORM SYSTEM
PUSHES SLOWLY EAST FROM KANSAS. IFR TO LIFR EXPECTED TO SETTLE IN
OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS FOR KRWF...KMSP...KSTC AND LAST INTO MID
MORNING ON TUESDAY BEFORE IMPROVING TO LOW MVFR FOR THE AFTERNOON.
PERIODS OF RAIN WILL ACCOMPANY THE LOW CONDITIONS PRIMARILY AT
KMSP AND KRWF. KAXN IS ALREADY AT VLIFR IN THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH
AND SHOULD BEGIN TO SHOW SOME IMPROVEMENT LATE IN THE NIGHT AS
SOMEWHAT DRIER AIR SPREADS IN FROM THE WEST. INDICATIONS ARE FOR
KAXN TO SCATTER OUR BETWEEN 18Z AND 21Z ON TUESDAY. KRNH AND KEAU
SHOULD SEE IFR CONDITIONS DEVELOP BY MORNING AS THE SURFACE TROF
APPROACHES AND PERSIST THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY. THE TROF WILL THEN
PUSH SLOWLY ACROSS WESTERN WI TUESDAY NIGHT. DUE TO THE MOIST LOW
LEVEL CONDITIONS AND CYCLONIC FLOW...LOOK FOR CEILINGS AND
VISIBILITIES TO LOWER TO IFR AGAIN IN THE EVENING FOR KMSP...KRNH
AND KEAU.

&&

.DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 122 PM CST MON NOV 23 2009/

VERY ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN ABOUT TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE UPPER
MIDWEST AS A SERIES OF SHORT WAVES FORCE THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN
TO BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE OF A PERIOD TO -RA/-DZ...THEN MIXING WITH
AND CHANGING TO -SN BY WED/WED NIGHT.

SHORT TERM CONCERNS DEAL WITH A STRONG UPPER WAVE ACROSS EASTERN
COLORADO THIS AFTN AND HOW THE UPPER LEVEL FORCING BECOMES
ELONGATED AND MOVES E/NE ACROSS IOWA/S MN AND WI. ALTHOUGH THERE
REMAINS SUBTLE DIFFERENCES IN THE OVERALL EVOLUTION OF THIS STRONG
UPPER WAVE...THE MAIN THEME WILL BE A LARGE AREA OF PRECIPITATION
DEVELOPING ACROSS NE/IA...THEN SPREADING E/NE ACROSS SOUTHERN MN
BY LATE THIS EVENING/OVERNIGHT. BY TUESDAY MORNING/AFTN...THE MAIN
INFLUENCE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MAIN SFC LOW
THAT WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE IA/MO BORDER BY TUESDAY MORNING...THEN
INTO SOUTHEAST WI BY TUESDAY EVENING. THIS WILL PLACE THE HIGHEST
PERCENTAGES OF WEATHER ELEMENTS ACROSS THE FAR S CWA...BUT STILL
LIGHT QPF AMTS DUE TO THE SEPARATION OF THE MAIN FORCING TO THE SE
OF OUR REGION.

AFTER TUE EVENING...THE NEXT SHORT WAVE WILL BE MOVING INTO THE
NORTHERN PLAINS AND INDUCE A SECONDARY FORCING AREA SOMEWHERE ACROSS
THE UPPER MIDWEST BY WEDNESDAY AFTN/EVENING. BY LATE WEDNESDAY/THU
MORNING... A SECONDARY FRONTAL BOUNDARY OR TROUGH WILL MOVE THROUGH
EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE MAIN CONCERNS WILL BE HOW
COOL THE LOW LEVELS WILL BE AS THE FIRST SYSTEM EXITS...AND WHERE
THE COLD CORE OF THE NEXT SYSTEM MOVES. THE LATEST GFS REMAINS TOO
WARM FOR ALL SNOW UNTIL ALL OF THE PRECIPITATION MOVES OUT OF OUR
REGION. THE NAM/WRF IS MORE OF A COMPROMISE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS
AND IS COOLER AND ALLOWS FOR THE TRANSITION OF RAIN TO SNOW BY
WEDNESDAY AFTN/EVENING ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA. ALTHOUGH THE GFS
DOES SHOW SOME CONTINUITY WITH THE OVERALL PLACEMENT OF THE UPPER
LEVEL SYSTEM ON WED/THU...THE NAM/WRF SEEM TO INDICATE SOME PV
FORCING (ALONG WITH THE UPPER LOW CLOSE TO OUR CWA) WHICH WILL
LIKELY INDUCE MESOSCALE COOLING PROCESSES. THEREFORE...RAIN CHANGING
TO SNOW IS LIKELY WEDNESDAY AFTN IN THE NW...THEN INTO THE SE CWA BY
LATE WED EVENING. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON
WHEN THE CHANGE OVER OCCURS...AND HOW MUCH LEFT OVER FORCING AND
MOISTURE REMAINS AS THIS SYSTEM EXITS THURSDAY MORNING. AT THIS
TIME...HPC SNOWFALL GRIDS SEEM REASONABLE WITH A BROAD AREA OF 1 TO
3 INCHES ACROSS MOSTLY THE NE 2/3 OF CWA...OR BASICALLY ALONG AND
NORTH OF AN ALEXANDRIA...TO ST CLOUD TO FBL LINE. HOWEVER...THIS
HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL LOW AND IF ANY TYPE
OF TROWAL SCENARIO DEVELOPS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM.

THE EXTENDED OUTLOOK REMAINS VERY PROGRESSIVE WHICH MEANS ANOTHER
WEATHER SYSTEM AFFECTING THE AREA BY SUNDAY. THICKNESS VALUES
REMAIN COLD ENOUGH FOR ALL SNOW AT THIS TIME. ..JLT..

&&

.MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MN...NONE.
WI...NONE.
&&

$$

RAH/JLT




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