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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
1234 PM EST SUN NOV 22 2009

LATEST UPDATE...SYNOPSIS AND AVIATION...

.SYNOPSIS...(1234 PM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
HIGH PRESSURE WILL PRODUCE FAIR WEATHER TODAY INTO MONDAY BUT FOG
WILL LIKELY REDEVELOP AGAIN LATE TONIGHT. A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL
BRING RAIN TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. IT WILL TURN COOLER LATE
THIS WEEK WITH A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE FOR OUR
THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(1035 AM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
(LATE MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON)
WE HAVE ALLOWED THE FOG ADVISORY TO EXPIRE AT 1000 AM. EVEN
SO...DENSE CONTINUES IN OUR EXTREME NORTHEAST COUNTIES. I EXPECT
THIS WILL MIX OUT BY NOON. HOWEVER... DUE TO THE PREVAILING SOUTH
SOUTHEAST WINDS THROUGH THE BOUNDARY LAYER... I AM CONCERNED ABOUT
THE LARGE AREA OF STRATUS AND FOG OVER LAKE ERIE AND SE LOWER
MICHIGAN AT 10 AM. THE HRRR RUC BRINGS THIS AREA NORTHEAST INTO OUR
EASTERN COUNTIES THIS AFTERNOON. SO I PUT THE CLOUD EDGE IN THE
GRIDS OVER OUR EASTERN COUNTIES THIS AFTERNOON TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FOG TONIGHT AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS ARE
TO STRONG OF WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG. TO SOME EXTENT IT WAS FOR THAT
REASON WE DID NOT GET MUCH FOG OVER SOUTH SW COUNTIES EARLY THIS
MORNING. I DID NOT TAKE THE AREAS OF FOG OUT OF OUR ZONES FOR
TONIGHT YET BUT MAY CHANGE THAT TO PATCHY FOG WITH THE AFTERNOON
UPDATE.

THE STORM JUST NOW COMING ONSHORE OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES
WILL CURVE OUT A DEEP TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES BY
WEDNESDAY BUT WHILE THAT SYSTEM IS DEVELOPING IT WILL BUILD AND
UPSTREAM RIDGE THAT WILL BE CLOSE ENOUGH OR SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN
TO ASSURE THIS AREA DRY WEATHER THROUGH MOST OF TUESDAY. IT SEEMS TO
ME THE EARLIEST I WOULD THINK RAIN WOULD MOVE INTO OUR AREA IS AFTER
DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF WEDNESDAY.

&&

.LONG TERM...(400 AM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
(TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)

TWO SYSTEMS/UPPER LOWS ARE THE FOCUS/CHALLENGE OF THE LONG TERM. THE
FIRST TRACKS EAST NORTHEAST FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS TUESDAY NIGHT
AND WEDNESDAY... TAKING ON A NEGATIVE TILT AS ANOTHER UPPER LOW
DROPS SOUTH THROUGH THE NRN PLAINS.

HANDLING OF THE INITIAL SYSTEM SEEMS RATHER STRAIGHTFORWARD... WITH
A HIGH CHANCE OF RAIN AND PERHAPS EVEN A TSTM. IF THE MODELS REMAIN
CONSISTENT ON TIMING... BELIEVE WE WILL BE ABLE TO RAISE POPS TO
LIKELY OR CATEGORICAL FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.

THE SECOND SYSTEM IS NOT AS STRAIGHTFORWARD SINCE COLDER H8 AIR NEAR
-4C GETS WRAPPED INTO THE SYSTEM FROM THE SOUTHWEST AS IT TRACKS
ACROSS THE REGION ON THANKSGIVING DAY AND NIGHT. PCPN TYPE IS A
CHALLENGE SINCE BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPS ARE PROGGED TO REMAIN THE MID
TO UPPER 30S DESPITE THE COLDER TEMPS COMING IN ALOFT. WILL CONTINUE
TO CARRY A MIXTURE OF RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS DURING THIS TIME... BUT AM
BECOMING A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ACCUMULATING WET
SNOW ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

SCATTERED SNOW OR MIXED RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS MAY LINGER INTO
FRIDAY... BEFORE RIDGING/QUIET WEATHER RETURNS FOR NEXT WEEKEND.

&&

.AVIATION...(1234 PM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
COMPLICATED AND UNCERTAIN FORECAST FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS...
ESPECIALLY CONCERNING FOG AND LOW CLOUD POTENTIAL FOR TONIGHT. MOST
LOCATIONS SHOULD REMAIN VFR THROUGH 23Z THIS EVENING WITH JUST A FEW
CUMULUS CLOUDS EXPECTED FOR THE MOST PART. SOME OF THE STRATUS EAST
OF THE AREA IS TRYING TO MOVE IN. SOME OF THIS WILL IMPACT KJXN AND
KLAN WITH A SCT015-020 LAYER...BUT WE DO NOT EXPECT IT TO GO BKN AS
IT IS MIXING OUT.

WE WILL START OUT A BIT BETTER ON VSBYS THIS EVENING AS VSBYS ARE
ALREADY BETTER THAN THEY WERE ALL DAY ON SAT. MOISTURE IS STILL
HANGING AROUND AND WE ARE MIXING HIGHER DEW POINTS DOWN...SO FOG
POTENTIAL REMAINS. WINDS WILL BE HIGHER THAN LAST NIGHT WHICH SHOULD
NEGATE FOG SOMEWHAT. WE ARE ALSO WATCHING THE LOWER CLOUDS TO THE
EAST COMING IN OFF OF LAKE ERIE. THIS IS EXPECTED TO SPREAD WESTWARD
AFTER SUNSET AS MIXING DIMINISHES. THIS ALSO SHOULD EXPAND AS THE
MOIST AIR WILL CONDENSE FAIRLY QUICKLY AFTER SUNSET. THE LOW CLOUDS
SHOULD ALSO NEGATE THE FOG SOME...BUT WE COULD VERY WELL END UP
SEEING IFR CIGS DEVELOP...EARLIER TO THE EAST. CONDITIONS WILL BE
SLOW TO IMPROVE AFTER SUNRISE ON MON AND THEN THROUGH 16-17Z MON.

&&

.MARINE...(400 AM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
AREAS OF DENSE FOG WILL POSE A HAZARD TO MARINERS THIS MORNING AND
POTENTIALLY ONCE AGAIN ON MONDAY MORNING AND EARLY TUESDAY MORNING
ALSO. OTHERWISE FAIRLY MINIMAL WIND AND WAVE ACTION IS ANTICIPATED
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...(400 AM EST SUN NOV 22 2009)
NO PRECIPITATION THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND MUCH OF TUESDAY. NO HYDRO
ISSUES EXPECTED.

&&

.GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LM...NONE.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS:     LAURENS/NJJ
SHORT TERM:   WDM
LONG TERM:    MEADE
AVIATION:     NJJ
MARINE:       LAURENS
HYDROLOGY:    LAURENS





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