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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
814 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009

.DISCUSSION...
752 PM CST

MAIN CONCERN FOR THE NEAR TERM THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS IS
BROAD AREA OF PRECIP THAT IS CURRENTLY MOVING THROUGH THE CWA.

THIS AREA OF PRECIP HAS BEEN RIDING OUT AHEAD OF UPPER LEVEL
CLOSED LOW...AND ATTENDANT SURFACE LOW. AS THIS LOW HAS SLOWLY
PROGRESSED TO THE EAST...IT HAS DRAWN A FAIR AMOUNT OF MOISTURE
NORTH INTO THE REGION WHICH HAS BEEN EVIDENT ON SATELLITE IMAGERY
ALONG WITH THE UPPER 40S/LOW 50S SURFACE DEW POINTS REPORTED
THROUGHOUT THE CWA TODAY. THIS HAS HELP PROVIDE DECENT RAINFALL
TOTALS OF UP TO HALF AN INCH...INCLUDED IN AREAS WHERE LIGHT TO
MODERATE RAIN IS STILL BEING REPORTED. EXPECT AN ADDITIONAL
QUARTER TO HALF AN INCH OF RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF NORTHERN
ILLINOIS AND NORTHWEST INDIANA OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS
BEFORE THIS MAIN PRECIP SHIELD LIFTS TO THE NORTHEAST. A LACK OF
ANY LIGHTNING STRIKES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS ASSOCIATED
WITH THIS PRECIP SHIELD GIVES PRUDENCE TO CURRENT RUC ANALYSIS
WHICH HAS SHOWN A DOWNWARD TREND FOR ANY ELEVATED INSTABILITY.
MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES WITH THIS TREND WITH VERY WEAK
INSTABILITY THROUGH TONIGHT. WITH THESE TRENDS IN MIND...HAVE
DECIDED TO PULL ANY MENTION OF THUNDER IN THE FORECAST.

RODRIGUEZ

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...
228 PM CST

PRESENT VORTEX ALONG THE IOWA AND MISSOURI BORDER SOUTH OF DES
MOINES IS THE FOCUS OF THE UPCOMING RAIN EVENT THIS EVENING. MAIN
CONVERGENCE ZONE AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM EXTENDS FROM LOWER THRU MID
MS VLY. HEAVIER RAINS IN THIS ZONE HAD DEVELOPED THUNDER EARLIER
TODAY. MAY STILL BE A RUMBLE OR TWO OF THUNDER AS THIS BAND SWINGS
NE FROM WRN IL INTO NRN IL THIS EVENING. PCPN BECOMES MORE SHOWERY
BY MRNG WITH UPR LOW PASSAGE. BUT TEMPS STILL TOO WARM TO
CHANGEOVER OR EVEN MIX WITH SNOW YET. THIS COMES LATER.

MODELS UNFOLDING SIMILAR TO YDA WITH GFS AND ECMWF TAKING MAIN UPR
VORTEX OF FIRST MAJOR TROF SOUTH OF CHICAGO LATE TONIGHT INTO
TOMORROW MRNG AND NAM NORTH OF THE WISCONSIN BORDER. ALL TEND TO
FILL THIS UPR TROF RAPIDLY OVER LOWER MICHIGAN AS WEAK UPR RIDGING
SLIPS EAST ACROSS NRN IL ON WEDNESDAY. ITS THE SECOND VORTEX THAT
WILL MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. DEEPENING AS IT DIVES SE FROM CANADA
AND DOWN ACROSS THE UPR MS VLY...THIS SECOND VORTEX WILL BRING THE
COLDER AIR DOWN FROM CANADA AND BEGIN TO MIX AND EVENTUALLY CHANGE
OVER TO SNOW LATE WED NGT THRU THURSDAY AFTER MOVING ACROSS CENTRAL
IL WED NGT AND EARLY THURSDAY. GROUND TEMPS AND AIR TEMPS WILL NOT
BE CONDUCIVE TO ACCUMULATIONS OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE
COLDEST AIR PLUNGING INTO NORTHWEST ILLINOIS MAY ALLOW A HALF INCH
ACCUMULATION ON NON-PAVEMENT SURFACES IN PARTS OF NORTH CENTRAL IL
SUCH AS WESTERN OGLE AND LEE COUNTIES ON THURSDAY.

THIS SECOND VORTEX CONTINUES TO DEEPEN AS IT WORKS ACROSS CENTRAL
INDIANA MIDDAY THURSDAY TO CENTRAL OHIO BY THURSDAY EVENING. DRYING
MOVES IN WITH THE COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND THIS MAJOR
TROF...PUTTING AN END TO THE SNOW SHOWERS THURSDAY EVENING.

UPR RIDGING WORKS EAST ACROSS THE MS VLY AND INTO THE FORECAST AREA
FRIDAY...CLEARING SKIES AND BRINGING A BIT OF A WARMUP BACK TO
ILLINOIS FOR SATURDAY. TEMPS MAY APPROACH 50 SATURDAY BUT THESE
WILL PROBABLY NOT BE WIDESPREAD. IN THE LONG TERM...ANOTHER
DEEPENING UPR TROF INTO THE PLAINS AND UPR MS VLY SAT NIGHT AND
SUNDAY MAY BRING ANOTHER CHANCE OF RAIN ON SUNDAY...COOLING AS IT
DRIES A BIT LATE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. GFS SHOWING SOME MINOR
WAVES MOVING SE DOWN THE PERSISTENT NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT IN THE
POST TROF ENVIRONMENT. THIS SUGGESTS THAT A TOTALLY DRY FORECAST
IS NOT THE WAY TO GO EARLY NEXT WEEK. SO LEAVING IN A SLIGHT RISK
FOR RAIN AND SNOW AFTER SUNDAY.

RLB

&&

.AVIATION...
530 PM CST

1800 UTC TAFS...A VERY MESSY PERIOD EXPECTED FOR AVIATION WEATHER
CONCERNS.

A VERTICALLY STACKED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM HAS MOVED OVER SERN IOWA.
THE MAIN LOW CENTER WILL MOVE NORTHEAST ACROSS NCNTRL ILLINOIS BY
06Z AND WILL CONTINUE TO CNTRL LAKE MICHIGAN BY 12Z. PCPN
ASSOCIATED WITH THE SYSTEM HAS SPREAD OVER ALL OF THE TERMINALS AT
ISSUANCE TIME...WITH GENERALLY MVFR CIGS...AND SPOTTY IFR
CIGS...ACROSS THE REGION...VIS VISIBILITY IN THE 2-3SM RANGE.

THE INITIAL CONCERNS WILL BE TIMING OF CIGS DROPPING TO IFR AND
HOW LOW CIGS WILL DROP THROUGH THE NIGHT. AT THIS POINT...EXPECT
CIGS TO LOWER TO IFR BY 02Z...WHICH WILL COINCIDE WITH THE TIMING
OF THE HEAVIER RAIN MOVING OUT OF THE AREA...AND THE PCPN
TRANSITIONING OVER TO DRIZZLE. WITH THE LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE
TAKING THE CENTER OF THE LOW RIGHT OVER RFD AND JUST NORTH OF THE
OTHER TERMINALS...THE CORE OF THE COLD AIR ALOFT WILL BE RIGHT
OVERHEAD AND EXPECT THAT THERE SHOULD BE PERIODS OF CIGS DROPPING
TO LIFR. SO...HAVE INTRODUCED A TEMPO GROUP FOR LIFR CIGS IN
DEFERENCE TO SOME UNCERTAINTY AS TO THE EXACT TIMING THAT THE LOW
WILL BE OVERHEAD. AT THIS POINT...THE MOST LIKELY TIME FOR CIGS TO
DROP TO LIFR WILL BE DURG THE PRE-DAWN HOURS.

FOR PCPN...HAVE GONE WITH DRIZZLE FOR THE PERIOD AFTER MIDNIGHT AS
THE SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES A MID LEVEL DRY SLOT MOVING ACROSS
THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND INTO WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS. THE
SHORT RANGE MODEL GUIDANCE IS WELL INITIALIZED WITH THIS
FEATURE...WITH RH TIME SECTIONS SHOWING THE LAYER BELOW 700MB
SATURATED AND WITH SIGNIFICANTLY DRIER AIR ABOVE. HOWEVER...WILL
KEEP THE IDEA OF MORE SHOWERY RAIN WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE AS
THERE WILL BE BETTER UPPER DYNAMICS AND SFC FORCING.

THE GENERAL TREND FOR THE PERIOD WILL BE FOR CIGS TO DROP TO IFR
THIS EVENING...AND REMAINING IFR UNTIL THE FRONTAL PASSAGE.
HOWEVER...WITH THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING RIGHT OVER THE
REGION...THERE WILL BE PERIODS OF LIFR CIGS DURG THE EARLY MORNING
HOURS. WINDS WILL REMAIN SELY UNTIL THE FRONTAL PASSAGE AND THEN
ABRUPTLY SHIFT WSWLY AS THE FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS THE AREA.
VISIBILITY WILL BE A CONCERN AS WELL...AND IS THE BIGGEST QUESTION
MARK AT THIS TIME. VISIBILITY WILL LIKELY REMAIN IN THE 3-5SM
RANGE...THOUGH PERIODS OF IFR VIS ARE QUITE
POSSIBLE...PARTICULARLY WHEN THE PCPN TRANSITIONS OVER TO DRIZZLE.

KREIN

&&

.MARINE...
137 PM CST

WINDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE ACROSS THE LAKE TONIGHT AS A LOW
PRESSURE SYSTEM CURRENTLY IN SOUTHERN IOWA LIFTS NORTHEAST TOWARD
THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LAKE. THIS LOW WILL THEN TAKE A JAUNT
NORTH AND HEAD TOWARD FAR EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. THE STRONGEST
WINDS WILL COME IN ACROSS THE LAKE ON THURSDAY AS A SECONDARY COLD
FRONT DROPS DOWN THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES. WINDS WILL BE GUSTING UP
TO 30 KT GIVEN THE STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION AND WARM LAKE
WATERS. LOOKS A BIT MARGINAL FOR GALES AT THIS POINT...SO WILL
HOLD OFF ON ISSUING ANY GALE HEADLINES...BUT WILL HAVE TO MONITOR
ON WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY. SMALL CRAFT CONDITIONS WILL LIKELY BE MET
TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO FRIDAY MORNING.

HALBACH

&&

.LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
IL...NONE.
IN...NONE.
LM...NONE.
&&

$$







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