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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN
655 PM CST TUE NOV 24 2009

.UPDATED FOR AVIATION DISCUSSION BELOW...

.DISCUSSION...

ALTHOUGH CURRENT TRENDS INDICATE A STRONG AND DEEPENING AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES IN THE NEXT 24/48 HRS...THERE
REMAINS SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES IN THE THERMAL PROFILE THAT WILL
HIGHLY INFLUENCE SNOWFALL AMTS AS THE -RA/-DZ CHANGES OVER TO
MAINLY -SN LATE TONIGHT...AND INTO WEDNESDAY.

CURRENT RADAR AND SATELLITE TRENDS INDICATED A PERSISTENT AREA OF
-RA/-DZ ACROSS MOSTLY THE EASTERN 1/2 OF CWA. SFC LOW AND
ASSOCIATED AREA OF LIFT THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO AMPLE CONVECTIVE
ALONG AND AHEAD OF A FRONTAL BOUNDARY ACROSS EASTERN MO...THERE
REMAINS A WEAK AREA OF CONVERGENCE ACROSS EASTERN MN WHICH WILL
WEAKEN OVERNIGHT AS THE SFC REFLECTION MOVES EASTWARD ACROSS
IL...AND INTO THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES.

A PERIOD OF SUBSIDENCE IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM...AND THE NEXT
SYSTEM ALREADY DIVING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND
NORTHERN PLAINS...WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MAINLY CLOUDY SKIES IN THE
WESTERN 1/2 OF CWA. CURRENT SFC ANALYSIS INDICATED -SN ALREADY
DEVELOPING ACROSS NORTHERN MONTANA...WITH BRISK N/NW WINDS.
USUALLY THESE TYPE OF SYSTEMS (ALBERTA CLIPPER) ARE FAST AND
PRODUCE TWO TO FOUR INCHES OF -SN ALONG AND JUST NORTH OF THE SFC
LOW. HOWEVER...THERE ARE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THIS AMT OF SNOWFALL
EXPECTED BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. FIRST...IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WARM
FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR IN TERMS OF LOW LEVEL THERMAL FIELDS.
SECONDLY...THE SFC REFLECTION IS WEAK AND THIS SYSTEM IS MORE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE 70H/50H TROUGH AXIS. THEREFORE...DUE TO THESE
CONDITIONS...SNOWFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE LIGHT AND UNDER TWO INCHES.
THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE SNOWFALL AMTS WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH
CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY ALOFT WHICH IS NOT FORECAST BY ANY SHORT
TERM MODEL AT THIS TIME. PLUS...THERE REMAINS TOO MANY MODEL
DIFFERENCES WITH THE DEPTH OF COLD AIR. ONE ELEMENT THAT IS IN
OUR FAVOR FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES IS THE JET
DYNAMICS...AND HOW THE NOSE OF THE PVU (1.5 OR GREATER)...AND
ASSOCIATED DRY SLOT WILL ENHANCE LARGE SCALE LIFT. CURRENTLY THE
GFS/EC HAS EASTERN MN FAVOR FOR THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO...WITH THE
NAM/WRF FAVORING WEST-CENTRAL WISCONSIN. DUE TO THE SPEED OF THIS
SYSTEM...MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE PRECIPITATION FREE BY LATE
WEDNESDAY NIGHT...WITH THURSDAY/FRIDAY DRY.

THE EXTENDED PERIOD FROM SATURDAY THRU NEXT TUESDAY REMAINS
FAVORABLE FOR A LONG WAVE TROUGH DEVELOPING ACROSS THE CENTRAL
U.S. OVER THE WEEKEND/EARLY NEXT WEEK. AS PER THE LATEST GFS/EC
...THE SOUTHERN JET WILL BE MORE ACTIVE...ALLOWING FOR ONLY
SUBTLE/WEAK WAVES AFFECTING OUR REGION. HOWEVER...IT SHOULD BE
COOL ENOUGH FOR MOSTLY SNOW...OR AT LEAST A MIXTURE DEPENDING UPON
THE EXACT TRACK OF THE SFC REFLECTION OF THE WAVES. ..JLT..

&&

.AVIATION... /06Z TAF ISSUANCE/
SFC TROUGH OVER EASTERN MN WILL REMAIN QUASISTATIONARY DURING THE
FCST PERIOD AS UPPER LOW MOVES SLOWLY TO THE EAST.  WEAK FORCING
INTO SOUTHEAST MN CONTINUES GENERATING SOME LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE OVER
EC MN INTO SRN PORTION OF THE FA. SHOULD AFFECT MAINLY KMSP THIS
EVENING...BEFORE GENERATING FARTHER EAST INTO WI LATE TONIGHT AND
WED. CIGS/VSBYS SHOULD REMAIN LOW OVER THE CENTRAL FA INTO THE NIGHT
WITH SOME DRYING NOTED OVER THE WESTERN AREAS...AS SECONDARY WAVE
DROPS SOUTHEAST. TIMING OF THE WAVE AND SFC CDFNT BRINGS SYSTEM INTO
THE WESTERN FA AFTER 07Z...AND AFFECTING THE KAXN/KRWF/KSTC REGION
THROUGH 12Z WED. SHOULD SEE MAINLY SNOW OVER THE FAR WEST WITH A
PERIOD OF -RASN OVER CENTRAL PORTIONS OF THE FCST AREA THROUGH 18Z
WED.  THEN WARMER LOW LEVEL AIR DOES ROTATE OVER THE EASTERN FA AND
SHOULD KEEP MAINLY LIQUID HERE THROUGH 00Z THU. GFS INDICATING SOME
ISENTROPIC LIFT OVER EC MN INTO THE AFTERNOON WITH THE ANOTHER SHOT
OF FORCING OVER THE SOUTHERN FA. BEST PV FORCING OVER THE MN RIVER
VALLEY TO SOUTHEAST MN THROUGH EARLY WED EVENING.  TIMING OF PCPN
OVER TO SNOW CRITICAL IN FCST OF ACCUMS. SFC TEMPS SHOULD START OFF
ON THE WARM SIDE HOWEVER...LIMITING ACCUM SOMEWHAT.

&&

.MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MN...NONE.
WI...NONE.
&&

$$

JLT/DWE







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