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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
1155 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009

LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION...

.SYNOPSIS...(421 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL SWING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS...PUSHING A BAND OF RAIN INTO THE AREA
THIS EVENING. THE RAIN WILL PERSIST INTO WEDNESDAY
MORNING...TAPERING OFF SOME THOUGH INTO THE AFTERNOON. RAIN SHOWERS
WILL CONTINUE INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS SOME LAKE ENHANCEMENT OFF OF
LAKE MICHIGAN OCCURS. THE AIR WILL BE COLD ENOUGH FROM LATE
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY WHERE SOME SNOW MAY MIX IN AT TIMES.
WE ARE NOT EXPECTING ANY SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF SNOW WITH THIS
SYSTEM. TRAVEL CONCERNS OVER THE WEEKEND SHOULD BE MINIMAL AS
SATURDAY IS EXPECTED TO BE DRY AND ONLY A CHANCE OF RAIN ON SUNDAY.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(421 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
(TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT)
CONCERNS IN THE SHORT TERM REVOLVE AROUND THE SYSTEM LIFTING TOWARD
THE FORECAST AREA FROM IOWA. PRECIPITATION CHANCES AND TYPE ARE THE
MAIN ISSUES.

THE MOST CONCENTRATED AREA OF PRECIPITATION WITH THE SYSTEM WILL
COME TONIGHT WITH A BAND OF RAIN THAT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE ENTIRE
FORECAST AREA. A RUMBLE OF THUNDER IS NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF
POSSIBILITIES...BUT NOT EXPECTING A WIDESPREAD BAND OF STORMS MOVING
THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA. AT THIS POINT LEFT THUNDER OUT OF THE
FORECAST. LIGHTNING DATA SHOWS STORMS DWINDLING ACROSS ILLINOIS.
ONLY A FEW STRIKES REMAIN OUT IN IOWA RIGHT NEAR THE LOW.

SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE INTO WEDNESDAY...AS THE UPPER TROUGH WILL BE
OVERHEAD AND A LAKE ENHANCEMENT BEGINS TO TAKE SHAPE AS DELTA T/S
INCREASE TO AROUND 10 DEGREES C.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT DELTA T/S INCREASE INTO THE LOWER TEENS C...WHICH
WILL MAKE THE PRECIPITATION A COMBINATION OF LAKE EFFECT AND SYSTEM
RELATED SHOWERS. THE RAIN DURING THE EVENING WILL TRY TO MIX WITH
SOME SNOW LATE...ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHWEST WHERE THE COLD AIR
WRAPS IN FIRST.

A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS LOOK REASONABLE THANKSGIVING AND
THANKSGIVING NIGHT. MAIN ISSUE WITH SNOW IS THE FACT THAT THE DGZ IS
UNSATURATED AT TIMES. SO...ENVISION SOME LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS
AND DRIZZLE...WHICH WILL MIX WITH SNOW AT TIMES IN THE MORE
CONVECTIVE SHOWERS AND BANDS. MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THANKSGIVING
EVENING AS THE FLOW GOES NORTHWEST PRODUCING A LONG FETCH DOWN THE
LAKE. THIS BAND WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SOME LIGHT
ACCUMULATING SNOW AWAY FROM THE LAKE IN ALLEGAN AND VAN BUREN
COUNTIES.

&&

.LONG TERM...(421 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
(FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)
BIGGEST CONCERN IN THE LONG TERM IS DETERMINING PCPN CHANCES FROM
SUN THROUGH TUE AS A COLD FRONT MOVES TOWARD THE AREA AND A UPPER
SYSTEM WINDS UP OVER THE SW PORTION OF THE COUNTRY.

MODELS HAVE PRETTY MUCH SETTLED ON DRIVING THE THANKSGIVING UPPER
LOW OUT OF THE AREA FRI NIGHT. THIS WILL BRING DRY CONDITIONS BACK
OVER THE AREA...AND TEMPS ALOFT WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF
MODERATING. CAN NOT RULE OUT MOISTURE GETTING TRAPPED UNDER
DEVELOPING SUBSIDENCE INVERSION...BUT WE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY LAKE
EFFECT WITH LIMITED DELTA T/S.

NEXT COLD FRONT IS POISED TO MOVE IN ON SUN AS A NORTHERN STREAM
TROUGH MOVES ALONG THE U.S./CANADIAN BORDER. THIS COLD FRONT WILL
NOT HAVE A LOT OF MOISTURE TO WORK WITH INITIALLY...BUT ENOUGH WILL
BE THERE TO JUSTIFY THE GOING CHC FOR SUN.

THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL DIMINISHES THEN FOR THE MON...AND ESPECIALLY
TUE PERIOD. STRONG PV ANOMALY WILL DEVELOP ACROSS THE DESERT SW THIS
WEEKEND. AS USUAL...MODELS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE STRENGTH
AND TIMING OF THIS FEATURE. WE BELIEVE THE 00Z/24 EURO HAS THE RIGHT
IDEA IN CLOSING THE LOW OFF OVER THE SW PORTION OF THE COUNTRY...AND
EVENTUALLY EJECTING NE TOWARD THE AREA.

UPPER TROUGHING WILL LINGER ON MON ALONG WITH SOME COOLER AIR...AND
WILL KEEP A THREAT OF A FEW SHOWERS IN. AS THE LOW TAKES SHAPE
ACROSS THE SW...RIDGING WILL BUILD OVER THE AREA AND SHOULD DRY
CONDITIONS OUT FOR A DAY OR TWO TUE AND MAYBE WED. WE BELIEVE THE
NEW EURO AND GFS ARE TOO QUICK IN EJECTING THIS SYSTEM OUT.

&&

.AVIATION...(1159 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
THE MAIN CONCERNS WITH THE AVIATION FORECAST DEAL WITH THE
POTENTIAL FOR IFR OR LOWER CONDITIONS FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT AND
WEDNESDAY.  ALSO ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE POSSIBILITY FOR ICING.

CONDITIONS ARE LARGELY EXPECTED TO BE IFR OR LOWER THROUGH THE NIGHT
INTO WED AM AS A WARM FRONT LIFTS NORTH THROUGH THE REGION.
SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL DRAW IN ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE...LEADING
TO THE LOW CLOUDS AND RAIN.  WILL NEED TO MONITOR THE POTENTIAL FOR
LIFR TOWARD DAYBREAK...BUT LITTLE OR NO SUCH CONDITIONS UPSTREAM IN
IL TO SUPPORT THAT SCENARIO.

WEDNESDAY...WINDS WILL BE SOUTHWEST AND THAT WILL DRAW ABUNDANT LOW
LEVEL MOISTURE IN THROUGHOUT THE DAY.  I DID FEATURE MORE IFR
CONDITIONS WITH THIS SET OF TAFS. MOISTURE AND LIFT LOOK MORE
IMPRESSIVE...THUS I TRENDED CONDITIONS DOWNWARD.  SUSPECT A BRIEF
LIFR EVENT WILL BE POSSIBLE WED AFTERNOON AS THE COLD FRONT COMES
THROUGH GIVEN ALL THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AROUND.

BETWEEN 06Z AND 10Z THE DEEPER MOISTURE WILL BE LIFTING NORTHEAST OF
THE TAF SITES.  HOWEVER WITH ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE HANGING
AROUND AFTER THAT...A LAYER OF ICING IS POSSIBLE.  CURRENT
PROJECTIONS HAVE THE FREEZING LEVEL FALLING FROM AROUND 5K FEET AT
06Z TO AROUND 4K FEET BY 12Z.  IT THEN REMAINS SATURATED UP TO
AROUND 12K FEET THROUGH 03Z THU.  THIS IS THE LAYER WHERE SOME ICING
MAY DEVELOP.


&&

.MARINE...(421 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
WINDS AND WAVES WILL RAMP UP LATE TONIGHT AND INTO WEDNESDAY AS LOW
PRESSURE TRAVERSES CENTRAL PORTIONS OF LAKE MICHIGAN. A SOUTHWEST
WIND WILL RISE INTO THE 15 TO 25 KNOT RANGE WHICH WILL BUILD WAVES
INTO THE 3 TO 5 FOOT RANGE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. WINDS WILL SHIFT A
BIT MORE WESTERLY WEDNESDAY NIGHT WHICH WILL KEEP WAVES AT SMALL
CRAFT HEIGHTS. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE
EXTENDED INTO THANKSGIVING AS NORTHWEST FLOW COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL
LIKELY BUILD WAVE HEIGHTS FURTHER.

&&

.HYDROLOGY...(421 PM EST TUE NOV 24 2009)
STILL EXPECTING RAINFALL AMOUNTS BETWEEN 0.25 AND 0.75 OF AN INCH
ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA INTO THANKSGIVING. NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF
POSSIBILITIES OF SEEING A FEW HIGHER AMOUNTS ACROSS THE NORTHWEST
CWA UP TOWARD LUDINGTON. RIVER LEVELS ARE WELL WITHIN BANK...SO
THESE RAINFALL AMOUNTS SHOULD NOT AFFECT STAGES TOO MUCH. THE PERE
MARQUETTE RIVER AT SCOTTVILLE FOR EXAMPLE IS CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 2.3
FEET. BANKFULL IS 4.0 FEET...SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF BUFFER YET.

&&

.GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ST. JOE TO WHITEHALL WEDNESDAY AND
WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS:     DUKE
SHORT TERM:   DUKE
LONG TERM:    NJJ
AVIATION:     MJS
MARINE:       DUKE
HYDROLOGY:    DUKE











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